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		<description>THANK GOD AND GREYHOUND

Going, going, gone? Hal Turner, who used his Internet site to call
for assassinations and bombings, has shut down, citing &quot;burnout&quot; and
&quot;no support.&quot; Turner had made the same claim, previously, blaming
finances and health, but, this time, he says that he is gone for
good. Turner fancied himself the Howard Stern of the &quot;right-wing.&quot; In
his webcast swan-song, he mouthed enough of his signature profanity
to make George Patton blush. He did it all, he declared, for the
&quot;white race.&quot; But Turner remained an enigma. He disavowed Barack
Obama, but praised Colin Powell. He disdained race-mixing, but
saluted as his &quot;best-friend,&quot; an Indian married to a white woman.

Turner used death-threats the way &quot;Kiss&quot; used makeup. To startle,
entice and annoy. He was protected by the First Amendment, but not by
the &quot;conspiracy&quot; and &quot;hate&quot; edicts, which he avoided by shutting down
in the nick of time. His &quot;hate-rock&quot; predecessors had been less
fortunate. Ryan Wilson had called for bombings, over the Internet,
and was sued for $1.1 million. He, then, took flight and was never
heard from, again. Roy Frankhouser appealed for killing a woman,
who he, also, stalked, and was fined a chunk-of-change, every month,
for the rest of his life. Alex Curtis pleaded guilty to &quot;hate,&quot; for
calling for &quot;finishing what Tim McVeigh had begun,&quot; over the
Internet, and served three years, after which he vanished.

The &quot;classic&quot; case had been Tom Metzger, who used his &quot;free speech&quot;
to pass out flyers depicting bullets being shot through the heads of
his opponents. What Metzger and Turner never told their associates is
that when someone takes a flyer or hears a broadcast and, then, kills
someone, the instigator can be held liable. Metzger was fined $12
million, bankrupted and put out of business, when his associate
instigated a murder. Turner began his career by organizing a rally in
support of Bob Grant, a popular, segregationist talk-how host in New
York City, who had been fired for criticizing Negroes. Turner, then,
commenced a short-wave &quot;pirate&quot; broadcast, dubbing himself
&quot;politically incorrect&quot; and &quot;controversial.&quot;

The Crosstar Website interviewed Turner, during which Turner said
that he was considering becoming more-involved with pro-majority
activism, but was not, at the time, sure how far he could go. When he
was fired from his job as a real-estate-agent, due to his criticism
of homosexuals, illegal-aliens and Negroes, he became embittered,
which he vented over the Internet in diatribes calling for &quot;shooting
the police,&quot; as well as a shopping-list of others he did not like.  When
his residence was picketed, he summoned his associates to show
up with guns and shoot the demonstrators. At that point, Nationalists
removed his interview and renounced him, warning against being in any
&quot;conspiracy&quot; with him.

Turner kept re-inventing himself, each time becoming more bizarre. He
relished being called the &quot;most dangerous man in America,&quot; ticking
off the names, addresses and phone numbers of politicians, who he
wanted killed. Pro-minority elements pointed to him as an example of
what &quot;rightists&quot; supposedly were all about. In his final-show, Turner
lambasted those who had ostracized him, calling them &quot;cowards,&quot; and
exhorted his listeners to &quot;go out and shoot&quot; people, as the &quot;only
way&quot; to &quot;clean up&quot; the country. According to web-stats, Turner&#039;s
page-count remained near zero, but Turner insisted that he was
departing solely in order to keep a &quot;low-profile&quot; for &quot;taking case of
business,&quot; by way of violence, in the future.

Several posters echoed the theme of &quot;taking case of business.&quot; Turner
had once journeyed to Idaho to conduct a small protest with the late
Richard Butler, appearing in front of a Swastika and calling for the
overthrow of the government. Butler had been fined $6.3 million for
instigating violence with far-less caustic words than Turner would
use, however. Turner had called for &quot;someone&quot; to step forward to
carry on his enterprise, which he bewailed was costing him $1,000.00
a month, but he had no takers. Where was it all supposed to head?
Turner, who frequently peppered his commentaries with the &quot;N-word,&quot;
summed up that &quot;I think the United States is ready for the right kind
of black leader: a black leader like Colin Powell.&quot;

Just before playing the Frank-Sinatra rendition of &quot;I did it my way,&quot;
Turner urged his audience to buy gold, avoid fluoridated water and go
out and shoot at least one Negro, homosexual or Jew. &quot;Use whatever
you want. A pistol, shotgun, rifle. I don&#039;t give a (deleted),&quot; he
concluded. &quot;In three days, it all will be taken care of.&quot; He explained
that he would be taking no outside calls, in order to keep the
&quot;crazies&quot; from interrupting. &quot;By September,&quot; he predicted, the
economy would collapse. &quot;By February,&quot; the entire country would have
collapsed. He related that the Knoxville Unitarian Church, which had
been shot up, had been a haven for illegal-aliens, Communist-lawyers
and race-mixers. &quot;Every member should have been lined up and shot,&quot;
he seethed.

Sortly before the collapse, Turner&#039;s server had been hacked and some
of its reputed contents published on the Internet, which quotes
Turner communicating with the FBI. One e-mail, styled, &quot;From: Hal
Turner (secret12(at)optonline.net) sent &quot;To: shaug(at)fbi.gov; Len
Nerbetski&quot; purported to claim that &quot;my fierce rhetoric has served to
flush out a possible crazy. Please acknowledge receipt of this
warning. Of late, both of you have become remiss in acknowledging
e-mails.&quot; In a separate e-mail to the agency, Turner reportedly said
that &quot;I can&#039;t let some (deleted) make an illegal threat on my
website, then get jammed up for &#039;not reporting.&#039;&quot; Words of an
anarchist? Informant? Patriot? As one listener put it, &quot;Who knows,
but thank God and Greyhound he&#039;s gone.&quot;

http://www.nationalist.org/alt/2008/073001.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK GOD AND GREYHOUND</p>
<p>Going, going, gone? Hal Turner, who used his Internet site to call<br />
for assassinations and bombings, has shut down, citing &#8220;burnout&#8221; and<br />
&#8220;no support.&#8221; Turner had made the same claim, previously, blaming<br />
finances and health, but, this time, he says that he is gone for<br />
good. Turner fancied himself the Howard Stern of the &#8220;right-wing.&#8221; In<br />
his webcast swan-song, he mouthed enough of his signature profanity<br />
to make George Patton blush. He did it all, he declared, for the<br />
&#8220;white race.&#8221; But Turner remained an enigma. He disavowed Barack<br />
Obama, but praised Colin Powell. He disdained race-mixing, but<br />
saluted as his &#8220;best-friend,&#8221; an Indian married to a white woman.</p>
<p>Turner used death-threats the way &#8220;Kiss&#8221; used makeup. To startle,<br />
entice and annoy. He was protected by the First Amendment, but not by<br />
the &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; and &#8220;hate&#8221; edicts, which he avoided by shutting down<br />
in the nick of time. His &#8220;hate-rock&#8221; predecessors had been less<br />
fortunate. Ryan Wilson had called for bombings, over the Internet,<br />
and was sued for $1.1 million. He, then, took flight and was never<br />
heard from, again. Roy Frankhouser appealed for killing a woman,<br />
who he, also, stalked, and was fined a chunk-of-change, every month,<br />
for the rest of his life. Alex Curtis pleaded guilty to &#8220;hate,&#8221; for<br />
calling for &#8220;finishing what Tim McVeigh had begun,&#8221; over the<br />
Internet, and served three years, after which he vanished.</p>
<p>The &#8220;classic&#8221; case had been Tom Metzger, who used his &#8220;free speech&#8221;<br />
to pass out flyers depicting bullets being shot through the heads of<br />
his opponents. What Metzger and Turner never told their associates is<br />
that when someone takes a flyer or hears a broadcast and, then, kills<br />
someone, the instigator can be held liable. Metzger was fined $12<br />
million, bankrupted and put out of business, when his associate<br />
instigated a murder. Turner began his career by organizing a rally in<br />
support of Bob Grant, a popular, segregationist talk-how host in New<br />
York City, who had been fired for criticizing Negroes. Turner, then,<br />
commenced a short-wave &#8220;pirate&#8221; broadcast, dubbing himself<br />
&#8220;politically incorrect&#8221; and &#8220;controversial.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Crosstar Website interviewed Turner, during which Turner said<br />
that he was considering becoming more-involved with pro-majority<br />
activism, but was not, at the time, sure how far he could go. When he<br />
was fired from his job as a real-estate-agent, due to his criticism<br />
of homosexuals, illegal-aliens and Negroes, he became embittered,<br />
which he vented over the Internet in diatribes calling for &#8220;shooting<br />
the police,&#8221; as well as a shopping-list of others he did not like.  When<br />
his residence was picketed, he summoned his associates to show<br />
up with guns and shoot the demonstrators. At that point, Nationalists<br />
removed his interview and renounced him, warning against being in any<br />
&#8220;conspiracy&#8221; with him.</p>
<p>Turner kept re-inventing himself, each time becoming more bizarre. He<br />
relished being called the &#8220;most dangerous man in America,&#8221; ticking<br />
off the names, addresses and phone numbers of politicians, who he<br />
wanted killed. Pro-minority elements pointed to him as an example of<br />
what &#8220;rightists&#8221; supposedly were all about. In his final-show, Turner<br />
lambasted those who had ostracized him, calling them &#8220;cowards,&#8221; and<br />
exhorted his listeners to &#8220;go out and shoot&#8221; people, as the &#8220;only<br />
way&#8221; to &#8220;clean up&#8221; the country. According to web-stats, Turner&#8217;s<br />
page-count remained near zero, but Turner insisted that he was<br />
departing solely in order to keep a &#8220;low-profile&#8221; for &#8220;taking case of<br />
business,&#8221; by way of violence, in the future.</p>
<p>Several posters echoed the theme of &#8220;taking case of business.&#8221; Turner<br />
had once journeyed to Idaho to conduct a small protest with the late<br />
Richard Butler, appearing in front of a Swastika and calling for the<br />
overthrow of the government. Butler had been fined $6.3 million for<br />
instigating violence with far-less caustic words than Turner would<br />
use, however. Turner had called for &#8220;someone&#8221; to step forward to<br />
carry on his enterprise, which he bewailed was costing him $1,000.00<br />
a month, but he had no takers. Where was it all supposed to head?<br />
Turner, who frequently peppered his commentaries with the &#8220;N-word,&#8221;<br />
summed up that &#8220;I think the United States is ready for the right kind<br />
of black leader: a black leader like Colin Powell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just before playing the Frank-Sinatra rendition of &#8220;I did it my way,&#8221;<br />
Turner urged his audience to buy gold, avoid fluoridated water and go<br />
out and shoot at least one Negro, homosexual or Jew. &#8220;Use whatever<br />
you want. A pistol, shotgun, rifle. I don&#8217;t give a (deleted),&#8221; he<br />
concluded. &#8220;In three days, it all will be taken care of.&#8221; He explained<br />
that he would be taking no outside calls, in order to keep the<br />
&#8220;crazies&#8221; from interrupting. &#8220;By September,&#8221; he predicted, the<br />
economy would collapse. &#8220;By February,&#8221; the entire country would have<br />
collapsed. He related that the Knoxville Unitarian Church, which had<br />
been shot up, had been a haven for illegal-aliens, Communist-lawyers<br />
and race-mixers. &#8220;Every member should have been lined up and shot,&#8221;<br />
he seethed.</p>
<p>Sortly before the collapse, Turner&#8217;s server had been hacked and some<br />
of its reputed contents published on the Internet, which quotes<br />
Turner communicating with the FBI. One e-mail, styled, &#8220;From: Hal<br />
Turner (secret12(at)optonline.net) sent &#8220;To: shaug(at)fbi.gov; Len<br />
Nerbetski&#8221; purported to claim that &#8220;my fierce rhetoric has served to<br />
flush out a possible crazy. Please acknowledge receipt of this<br />
warning. Of late, both of you have become remiss in acknowledging<br />
e-mails.&#8221; In a separate e-mail to the agency, Turner reportedly said<br />
that &#8220;I can&#8217;t let some (deleted) make an illegal threat on my<br />
website, then get jammed up for &#8216;not reporting.&#8217;&#8221; Words of an<br />
anarchist? Informant? Patriot? As one listener put it, &#8220;Who knows,<br />
but thank God and Greyhound he&#8217;s gone.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalist.org/alt/2008/073001.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalist.org/alt/2008/073001.html</a><br />
Copyright 2008 The Nationalist Movement</p>
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